The D'Hara empire

In this novel Richard had to take a very important and painful decisoion to save the New world from the Imperial Order. He broke the Midlands alliance and asked every country to join his Empire because it's the only way to defend the New World. Some of the kingdoms accepted him and start preparing their soldiers like Kelton, Galea etc... Others accepted the Imperial Order and their countries were raze to the ground by its soldiers. Do you think Richard took the right decision????? Are there someone who think he's wrong???? Please let me know

first off richard made decisions that showed how power hungry he was... as a rahl he wanted more people under his dominion and he took the excuse of saving the world from the order as his primary reason... he is no better than Jagang... a power hungry dictator...

This time I have to disagree with you, dictatorships aren't always wrong and having a man like Richard,who take care of everybody live in the Creator's light, at the head of a nation could only work better than ever
I respect your opinion too and everybody could think as he wants it isn't wrong only because I think differently. Is it right?????

i'm sorry, but a dictator is always a dictator... and how would you know that with time he would not become corrupt like many others? why would free people want to become slaves under a dictator, and one that carries a very bad reputation because of his father darken rahl? such presumption i believe makes him less than good...

uhmmm I think you have a point. Only the time past in this situation could let one of us prevail on the other.

if dictatorships aren't always wrong please tell me of one that was right.

well in european history there were a lot of examples..... in realty they didin't think about them like dictators but they ruled like what now we recocnize as a dictator that are a lot of good Roman's emperor (octavianus,tiberio,marco aurelio and so on), and they did a lot of good things to the Empire...... I think that,like everything, there are some good dictators and also the bad ones

but tell me... when octavius or tiberio or marco aurelio were emperor... what happened to people that spoke against these emperors? what happened to those that had different political views from those emperors? how many people did they killed because they opposed them? i could go on, but if you can answer these three questions i'll be happy...

I think this questions can also be done to any govern ( empire, republic, kingdom and so on...) so what govern do you suggest is the better?

definitely not a dictatorship... a democracy works best, but only if the people get truly involved and don't let the politicians run amock ... every so often even in a democracy you'll have an administration that tries to behave like a dictatorship... and it is the people and politicians that need to put a stop to the madness... naturally there are other people with power that might think just like the administration, making change very difficult... as an upbeat... with a democracy the adminitrations change within several years, they are not for life...

I think we cannot decide who has reason if we don't try the experience

i'm not sure i understand what you are trying to say...

excuse me, I said that ours opinions can't prevail each other without us trying this experience

ok... you just said, practically the same thing, and i still don't know what you are trying to tell me. try in italian and i'll tell you how to say it in english.

ok Excuse again...
I mean:" non possiamo sapere chi ha ragione se non proviamo l'esperienza"
I'm so sorry to make you work harder to understand my english

we cannot understand who is right if we don't have the experience...

are you telling me you have not experienced a democracy?

by the way don't worry about me working hard... it is important for you to learn more and better english.

ok thanks.
it's this that i meant, but of course I've exerienced democracy (Italy is a democratic republic) but who know if having Richard as ruler would be better than having Bush or Berlusconi ( do you know the premier in Italy)??????

no i really don't know the premier of italy...

but naturally i really know bush...

give me a small synopsis of berlusconi... please...

well it's an entrepreneur who is the richest in Italy and he rules the govern (of course under the President of Republic)I think he is a little bush so you can understand who rule Italy isn't better than your president

i see...
well, we know that a democracy can fail depending on who the people vote for... but that person doesn't stay in office for the rest of his life like a dictator... so in this case there is light at the end of the tunnel... and a new president will eventually take office...

ya it's correct but not all the democratic presidents are good and I think it's the same of dictators, like democratic premiere try to do the best for the population even they try to do this and in same dictatorship they succeded in this( I mean for example when in Italy there was Mussolini, a dictator of the extreme right, in the first time people earned a lot not only money but in their way to live; or when in Russia there was Lenin he helped a lot of poor people to rise up from the bottom). It's true after they made some critical mistakes but also Usa's past presidents make critical mistakes and they were democratic so I think it's the same in all the governs. The govern don't count but people who rule count and the successes or the failures depend on them not on the form of govern....

It's right wht you've said, valerio! I think that the people are important, and not the govern....if I don't wrong, also the american govern (bush) shouted up its enemies...(guantanamo!!)..

Good Bayle. I don't know what really happen in guantanamo so I didn't nominate it (I only talk about things I knew) so singularity as you see not only dictators rule their countries with killings or at least it's my opinion let me know what do you think

in some instances you are right... in the US we can impeach a president... like Nixon -- he was impeached -- removed from office... many wanted to impeach Bush, but congress never had a majority so it never happened...

you cannot remove a dictator unless you kill him... so here is another major difference...

Guantanamo Bay is a very sore topic with many americans... because we know that torture has gone on there... which should never have happened... some of us are furious...

not sure about mussolini... but i know lenin killed many while he was in power... democratic presidents don't usually go around killing the opposition... if they did we wouldn't have a democratic party in the US any more...

Oh yes but my opinion is always the same, in Italy we have a proverb that say "Don't do of all grass a boundle" (I don't know if it is the correct traslation) so it depends from person to person

since i understad italian, please relate the proverbs in its proper language...

and yes it is your opinion, a valid opinion, that i do not have to agree with... i don't believe in dictatorships, good or bad... and i'm a firm believer that the people can make democracy work...

"Non fare di tutta l'erba un fascio" it's the proverb

non ho mai sentito questo proverbio... ho imparato una cosa nuova questa mattina...

oh I'm happy to teach you something (i'm joking, in these threads I learned a lot from you I'm so happy!!!!!)

so in other words you still advocate dictatorships?